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Jonathan Ross

Posted by stevelowton on November 2, 2008

Sorry I did promise myself to put this down.

But my mum summed the whole situation up perfectly this morning as we drove from Redcar to Lancaster {Don’t ask – long story}.

 

Her pronouncement. Delivered with all the pathos of a hard life, a thick Glaswegian accent a mother speaking to her only son and the benefit of age and experience at play.

 “He had it coming. He was just one of those fellers who thought he could do and say what he pleased – like we were all stupid. They can all do it for so long but eventually one of them has to pay the price”

 I am part of that underclass thought to be stupid, inarticulate, reactionary and moralistic looked down on by the burghers of taste, art, and power.  Big deal. I’m sticking with my mum.

Tim Ocsko

 

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Ross and Brand – The end of the week.

Posted by stevelowton on November 1, 2008

As promised a response to Dan who left a seriously and seriously long comment re Ross and Brand. Thanks to to all of those who commented and emailed me over the last few days.

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Dan,

The only attacking that is evident in the Ross and Brand saga was done by these two guys. It was malicious. Nasty. Unnecessary. They showed no respect. They attacked an old man. I agree that comedy should take risks and eventually it will cause mistakes but that’s easy to account for. This wasn’t one of those occasions it was just simple bullying. two guys showing off to one another. All a bit pathetic. If they had jumped to apologise immediately – it would have looked and felt different but they didn’t. Its not the conservative, religious-minded “little” Englanders revolution that you paint it – its just a response by a cross section of groups to behaviour that went too far over the boundary.

As for burning people at the stake – I do actually think we live in a very forgiving society when we give it a chance and there is nothing I would like to see more than Ross and Brand role model true contrition. Saying sorry is never enough. Its about what you do afterward to correct the situation, make sure it doesn’t happen again and role model changed behaviour for others – especially if you have the tag celebrity or are in the employ of a publicly funded body.

I too want those in the arts to produce edgy, creative, informative and passionate work which attracts as many different audiences as exist in this nation. And yes these audiences will disagree. Would I ban the type of interview show that Ross until recently hosted on a friday night? – absolutely not. Clear place for it. Would I watch it? No. Simply not my cup of tea.

However I do think independent TV is the way froward. many of the programmes we see on BBC are made by independent companies anyway. Might be a bit selfish this as I begrudge having to pay a TV License for a channel I don’t really watch.

Finally as for Stories from the Street – I appreciate your concern. Our view on this is simple – we must be edgy and seek out stories which bring hope and stories which will disturb BUT we must not encourage that which is malicious and there only to cause pain to others.

Hope this closes the Brand / Ross saga – we have US 2008 to focus our attention on.

Tim…

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OFCOM Launch Enquiry into Brand and Ross ‘prank’.

Posted by stevelowton on October 28, 2008

Well if there was a competition for predicting the banner headline of the Daily Mail – I would have won. Today’s Mail lead with ‘Sack Them’ – my two worder in yesterday’s blog. Not really a great score though – as predictable as the establishment backlash we saw today. A backlash balanced out by the whip crack of the freedom of speechers irate that the very essence of civil liberties is at threat.

But why would this torrrid event beat Afghanistan, Credit Crunch and US 2008 to the top of the news? Well there are a number of deep rooted issues and fears right at the heart of it. Issues and fears which now and then bubble to the surface on the back of a trauma like this but which fail to get resolved until the next time and the next time….

I think one of the characteristics of the whole sorry episode which riled me most was the use of the word prank. In my mind a prank was a bit of  joke, harmless etc. However the varety of on line dictionariesavailable all lead with a prank being malicious. Shows how much I know about the English language, as the BBCs description of the episode is appropriate, as it was clearly malicious and aimed to hurt. We will come back to this latter BUT the point I am making is that the use of language and its meaning are not constants. Not uniform or consistent. We have personal, communal, regional, educational, class preferences and divisions to our use of the English Language that means that what is acceptable to one isn’t acceptable to another. But hey can’t we be big enough to value this? I think we can. BUT please don’t think I am some dyed in the wool {can I say that without offending shepherds?} freedom of speech fanatic because I am not. Freedom of Speech is about carte blanche whereas I don’t think that Ross and Brand should have said what they did publicly because its aim was malicious. And there lies the issue. Its not that I can’t say I am a Republican {which I am and I can say without fear of reprisal} its that I shouldn’t say that Prince Philip is a tosser {Apologies. effect only. I have nothing against Philip as a man}. When freedom of speech allows us to say anything we like, whenever we like, to whoever we like….we have lost the game. My dad came from a country where that liberty, that privilege had been lost a long time ago. He used to say ‘The English have had so many freedoms for so long that they don’t know what to do with them anymore’. You see I don’t think Freedom of Speech is a right to be shoved like the proverbial two fingers in the faces of anyone I like. I think its a privilege to be nurtured and treated with respect.

A sad day for real freedom of speech. The privilege of free speech.

What about the poor grand daughter? Enter stage left the object of the tirade aspiring actress Georgina Baillie, {stage-name Voluptua}, cast into the limelight after Brand/Ross broadcast their phone voicemails to her 78-year-old grandfather. Poor girl. A bit like Palin she will get 1 minute of the nice side of fame and 14 minutes of pain. The images of her are already winging their way across the net. I suspect for Georgina Baillie her career will now do one of two things: 1. If she was any good at acting these events will have no impact at all. 2. If she was no good at acting she will be able to earn a few quid on variety of chat shows and newspaper reviews.  But before either of those happen she will have her whole life, warts and all exposed to all for us all to read. What’s all that about then?  Well if there’s dirt it will get found even if it needs to be spiced up a bit.

A sad day for Georgina Baillie – soon to be yet another victim of the press that demand freedom of speech so they can torture with their words whomever they like.

For Brand and Ross this will present a temporary blip but long term a very financially rewarding stunt. Ross’ viewing figures will go up as he attracts a} a group of the population who think what he did was cool, b} a group of the population keen to see how he handles his apology live on TV and how he handles himself over the next few weeks. Eventually, and sooner than you think the Talented Mr. Ross will be presenting our BAFTAs or such like making a sly dig or two about this event. His patriots and chums in the audience will cheer loudly, mocking all of us sad ordinary folk who think that it actually matters how we behave and how we treat one another and what we say about one another and how we treat our civil liberties. For Brand – less certain in the immediate. I suspect he will be sacked and move on. His DVDs will though sell more and he will be much richer this time next year than he was going to be. In their own way they will both apologise hollowly with a much more passionate stiff middle finger in our faces. Screw Us.

A further sad day for our history of celebrity culture.

For our politicians quick to jump on the popular bandwagon a few more bought votes. i don’t see them though fighting for the rights of those in our society with no voice at all. Neither Brown nor Cameron mentioned how appalling it was that marginalised estate kids in Leeds today have little or no say about the poverty they live in.

A further double standard sad day for our politicos. No surprises there then.

How bloody torrid. What Brand and Ross do is highlight what is worse about our society. A deep rooted misunderstanding of what is right and what is privilege. A lack disregard for how we treat one another. A snarling rabid press hunger of its next kill. Politicians …well you can fill this in.

Yet how different it could have been. Imagine the other world headlines:

“Ross and Brand apologise, resign and agree to give their full contract earnings to charity”

“BBC Executives and Directors resign amid Parliament call for tightening of the Broadcasting Act”

“Civil Liberty Organisations Work together to promote respect campaign”

As for me and my little spat – ‘Sack Them’ – who am I kidding?

Tim Ocsko

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Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand ‘prank’.

Posted by stevelowton on October 27, 2008

Sack them.

Sorry sounds a bit Daily Mail-ish but let’s be right in any other line of business you would get sacked for what these guys did.

The BBC described it as “unacceptable”. So why have these two characters still got jobs…and why have their bosses?

Some prank. Where I grew up you would have got your teeth kicked right in. But I suppose when you pick on old men?

Brand. Sacked by MTV, sacked by XFM {once again for insulting messages}. Russell’s brand is just that – a brand. No substance, no real meaning, self perpetuating hype.

Ross. Father of 3, two of which are girls. Mmm? Nice thing for a daddy to do. Definitely one story he will want to share with his two daughters over their bedtime milk.

I know someone [can't say who] who once told me [from the security of Hull Cat A Prison] that you can push so far and you can push so many times but sooner or later people have had enough.

Russell. Jonathan. We have had enough.

Tim Ocsko

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